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· updated 4 weeks ago · 55 comments
Need to add ability to show icons near files and folders. Also, we need an API for this.
It usualy needs by CVS-plugins, advenced plugins(like IM integration, lol) and others.
 
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Krzysztof Jagiełło
It would be very useful. I think that the actual project sidebar is a bit confusing and it is quite hard to quickly find the file you are looking for.
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Diogo Resende
I agree with you, I would change the group names from "Files" to "Workspace" and "Folders" to "Project" (or something similar..).
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atomi
Nope don't agree with this one.
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Dan Abramov

I would at least ask to make this configurable.


While some users might enjoy it, I prefer minimalistic style of ST2, and the use of system icons, or worse, crappy open source icons, would annoy me as hell.


I wouldn't mind textual CVS indication, though, if it is elegant.

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Cameron Cooke
Maybe you want to expand you pointless comment with some reasoning?
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Luke Scott
For sure. I like being able to spot the file type with an icon. CVS/Git plugins would benefit from this for sure.
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Ruben Nijveld
I would very much agree with this one. The main use case for this, is when you have multiple files/folders with comparable names, but different extensions. For example when using C, where in a worst case you might have a file.c, file.h, file.o and file. Or think of frameworks like Zend Framework which use structures like the folder View and at the same level a View.php file.


Most of the time the visual distinctiveness with these files is so small that you have to take extra time to find the right file/folder. I'm all for subtle clues, but in this case the clues are too subtle for me. Another, maybe more original, way of trying to solve this problem (instead of using icons) is to change the color of a filename based on the filetype. For example making folders a little yellowish, PHP files a little purple, Python files a little blue and so on.


Anyhow I would strongly support adding visual clues to the sidebar.

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Diogo Resende
Another good thing to do is to be able to differentiate files with the same name from different folders. Maybe add path difference. (/path/a/index.php and /path/b/index.php would appear as a/index.php and b/index.php).
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Bas Klorus
I really miss this in the current app. For inspiration, one could look at the textmate 2 sidebar. It's so much more accessible with some nice icons and the git integration is great, showing markers for changed and unsubmitted files. Obviously other file system plugins could also benefit greatly from this, like the existing SFTP ones.
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Tane Piper
Not just file icons, but would love to be able to show status icons like Dropbox or Windows Git that show states like uncomitted - but also can be tied into plugins via the API (for example my Todo Manager, I'd like to show there is active todos for files in the sidebar)
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Mark Parson
Agreed would be very nice to have icons for quick scannability.
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mpet
It would be good, but only as an option/plugin, I think. Currently, it's cleaner. This text editor is for coders in the first place and I think that we need distractions as less as possible
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chaiguy
Icons are distracting?
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niteshade
icons *can* be distracting, sure, although I wish Sublime had *some* icons.  Makes scanning a hierarchy much quicker.  Does Sublime have any CSS or equivalent, which would allow for installable themes?
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chaiguy
Icons would definitely be useful for me to be able to quickly pick out .js vs .php files. I certainly wouldn't mind having it as a disableable option, but a plugin would be overkill for such a simple feature.
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mpet
No, it doesn't have to be a plugin, maybe option only. And it's good to have different file types displayed with different colors/icons etc.. But I like as it's now, because it is a tool for coders in the first place.
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Mark Madsen
This is really big for me too. I still use Textmate on certain projects just to access this feature. 


It would be great it clicking the icon opened the file while clicking the filename kept the current behaviour.


It would be even more awesome if this became configurable. Say have  a way to override the icon for a specific file. I am imagining changing icons based on passing/failing tests with something like guard. 


And of course git (or other source control) status could be reflected in the icons as well...

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Lorren Biffin
I'd also like to see this. The several benefits far outweigh the (very odd) downside that some others are proclaiming. Icons are distracting .. really?


In any case, if there's any question, let the user decide: Allow us to toggle display of document-type icons on/off. You could go a bit further by allowing the user to select icon sets to be used, or allow them to be defined in a UI Theme.

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Sam Benson
I'm jumping ship from Dreamweaver to ST2 and this is quite literally the only thing I miss.
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Joel Thornton
Setting "bold_folder_labels" has been added to build 2193. As of this writing this build is only available on the nightly channel.
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aristidesfl
Is it set by default?
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Joel Thornton
Nope - I had to set it manually in my .sublime-settings to get the effect.


It looks like there's also a "font.bold":true attribute that can be added to classes in Default.sublime-theme to bold sidebar elements aside from this setting.

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Eddy Löwen
I am really looking forward to this one and can't wait for it!

Something like this: http://d.pr/i/9igT would be really cool.

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Jhonny Everson
Features like this one can make the editor more slow, it will slowly be turned into yet another ID. So, I am against it.
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Dan Palmer
Seriously? Loading a few small icons will have no effect on the speed of the editor on any modern computer, speed of the application is a total non-issue.


Speed of usage on the other hand is an issue, and I know that if I could see icons to represent different filetypes and version control statuses I would be significantly quicker at working in Sublime Text. 


Chocolat for Mac has a great range of sidebar icons, very well designed and differentiated enough that I can easily see what type files are. The lack of this feature is one of the very few annoyances I have with Sublime Text.

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aristidesfl
Chocolat Icons are not bad indeed..
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Alexey Petruchik
It is pretty obvious that this feature should be configurable and those who want more speed or just don't want to see icons could easily turn them off.
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chaiguy
Adding icons to the sidebar will *not* slow it down*. Sublime is not Eclipse.


*If done properly, anyway.

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aristidesfl
Lol non yet..
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Eric Gray
icons in the sidebar would be icing on the cake for Sublime Text 2. Most editors uses icons for a reason. Icons help you to quickly navigate your files. I'm hoping they add this feature real soon. This is the only thing stopping Sublime from being number one.  I made a quick mockup of Sublime Text 2 with sidebar icons similar to Textmate. I develop mainly rails apps so the file icons are relevant to ruby. http://d.pr/i/apG7
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aristidesfl
Folders or arrows. choose one
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Eric Gray
OSX style have arrows next to folders. When you click on the arrow the folder opens revealing the files and the arrow points down. I prefer both Arrows and Folders
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Eric Gray
The file icons were a little cramped. Pushed them over 1px. 
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Mark Learst
I'm kind of wondering why Folders and Filetype icons are not in yet, suppose the VI crowd would cry, but this is a GUI not MacVim. I'm betting it's a lot more involved than a standard cocoa app that can toss in a source tree view (or whatever it's called) and wire it up in an afternoon, downfall of cross platform. At the very least ship it like every standard text editor GUI and let the vim'rs have an option to turn it off, or remove them in vintage mode.
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Joel Thornton
I'm sure it's on the roadmap somewhere, just have patience. If you're interested you can watch the dev and nightly changelogs to see what work's being done.
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Diogo Resende
I would suggest using something similar to Chocolat app. This and the way folding/unfolding work in Chocolat are the only things missing for me..
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chaiguy
The Chocolat sidebar looks good, however I disagree with the code folding. See http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/91689-code-folding-should-collapse-closing-bracket/
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Diogo Resende
I actually don't like the "..." icon, I would prefer an horizontal line below the first line. I think it's more easily detected.
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chaiguy
Yeah I like the line as well. However, I just wish it would include the closing bracket in the collapse so you don't have it just hanging out there wasting space.
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grin

The Chocolat really good sidebar.


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Joe Esposito

Aw, you got my hopes up. I thought this was a screenshot of a plugin =)

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aristidesfl

I might have to switch to chocolat one of these days..

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Nico Ritsche

Please add this feature!! I really noticed the difference when switching from RubyMine. I'm mainly working with Rails and is much harder to spot a file or folder with Sublime than it is with Rails, due to the lack of icons. 

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mrmachine

Must be really hard to implement, or Jon really doesn't like the idea :) So many votes here. This is the most obvious issue I have with ST at the moment. Other higher voted features may be more important, but this one is staring me in the face all day long every day and almost every other editor out there (even the most basic ones) at least show file icons.

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jan otte

I disagree with this being added to the core of ST.


The default choice is clean and elegant and avoids a file full of icon graphics that I don't want. I am not saying that those who do want these things are wrong for them, I am saying it is wrong for me.


Happily you can add these icons to the sidebar of you want them. Visit the Theming of the sidebar item to see examples of people doing just what you are looking for along with download to implement it and tips on how to make your own tweaks.


I can have the clean layout I like and you can add what you see as helpful visual aids and I see as nasty clutter and we are all happy.


ST for the win!

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El Boletaire Underave

The API option for it could be nice, but I agree with jan otte.

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Robert Payne

The fact is currently there is no way to actually add this into ST nor even ST3 it's a huge feature request and has been high up on many people's desires for years.


Sure some people will want the clean interface but it should be easy enough to allow an API or setting to turn normal icons on.


Right now the best solution is to hack the arrow graphic to get folder icons which does little to solve the issue of having visual cues to files.


Again Jan Otte you're wrong here because the API does not currently allow full icon integration in the sidebar and I think this feature request is directed at solving that issue at least.

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jan otte

The description of the initial post on the thread contains 'show icons near files and folders'. I was insufficiently explicit in saying that the answers in the other thread were about the folders, rather than the files.


I plead guilty to that lack of complete clarity. 


But surely it was worth drawing people's attention to the fact that some of what they want is available and that there is a discussion of how that might be achieved on another thread? Or is that something you think is a bad thing?


To be totally clear. I do NOT want this implemented. I do NOT want an API. I do NOT want a set of file and/or folder icons. I like things as they are. Things being the way they are is part of the reason I bought and use ST and will buy the ST3 upgrade.


You, apparently feel differently. That's lovely and thanks for sharing.

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mrmachine

I certainly do feel differently. The lack of file and folder icons (and no, hacking images doesn't count) is *the* major problem I have with ST2, and it seems ST3.


This request has been outstanding so long with no real word from the developer about why it has not been implemented ("wonfix", or is it just technically difficult?) that it really gives me cause to hesitate before purchasing, and every few months I re-evaluate the competition to see how they are stacking up. If ST2 had implemented this, I would not hesitate to purchase and I would not bother to evaluate the competition.


If you do NOT want this feature implemented, why are you even bothering to comment here? Go and vote on some other feature request instead of trying to dismiss the 600 votes for this feature.

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jan otte

Are you really suggesting that:

1 - Expressing a contrary opinion is in any way analogous to "trying to dismiss the 600 votes for this feature"?

2 - That only people who agree with a thread should comment on that thread?


Is that really truly what you are suggesting?

Really?

Seriously?

You really put those statements in print and posted it on the internet and 21 hours later haven't regretted them enough to retract them?


Well it seems that there are a quite a few things we disagree about in this world far more fundamental than the benefits or otherwise of icons in the sidebar.


Anyway, I hope you feel better for putting your opinion out there for everyone to read and understand where you are coming from. I for one welcome open discussion and am completely happy that you have an opinion about the icon thing that is different to mine. I don't consider you disagreeing with me to be a negation of my opinion. 


I am not so happy with the stuff about expressing my opinion being in some way a negation of other people's opinion or the desire for conversations to be echo chambers but if it makes you happier to try and arrange things so you are never confronted with the fact that some people disagree with you then I wish you well with the attempt.


Thanks for sharing.

Peace and love.

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mrmachine

Just saying, you could probably make better use of your time advocating for features you do actually want, instead of advocating against features that 600 other people want.


You seem to really NOT want this feature to be implemented (your emphasis), but I really don't see why having the option for those who want it would make any difference to those who don't, and so I am agreeing with you that yes, we do feel differently.

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jan otte

My emphasis was simply intended to point out why I had not fully researched all the available options etc. and had therefore rushed an earlier posting.


Thanks for your concern about how I spend my time but that is fine and under control.


The reasons I don't support this idea are:

1 - I think the idea is bad and goes against the ST minimalistic aesthetic by introducing the kind of visual clutter that Jon has set out to avoid in building ST

2 - If Jon invests time into this then he will have less time to devote to things I do want to see implemented so things I want  will be slower to arrive or will never be implemented

3 - Any additional code to implement this feature that I don't want is simply bloat for me which must neccessarily have some (possibly trivial) impact on the size of the download and install and the performance of the app (again possibly trivial). 


Since all of these are negatives (even if possibly trivial) and are incured to add a feature that I think is a bad idea and don't want then that's the 'difference' it makes to me.


For you and 600+ other people the pro/con analysis is the opposite of mine. That's cool but my opinion is the only one I am allowed to have.


Anyway I think your key point that providing positive description of exactly what is being sought here and how people would best like to see it handled would be more likely to progress this is a powerful one.


Would it be enough for Jon to provide an API that allowed attaching icon graphics to folders and files?


Or do people expect Jon to supply one or more sets of icons?


Should these be part of the standard download or an optional download from the ST site? Or from some other source?


Has there been an agreement amongst a substantial subset of the 600 on what would comprise a minimum set of icons?


Is there some agreement on a style?


Has someone presented a set of icons as the proposed default set that they are able to present as suitable and free of licence issues for Jon or some scheme developer to use as the start of a design pattern?


I don't present all these as arguments against the matter but just starting to dig through the chain of decisions that someone will need to make at some point and those who want this stuff have the highest motivation to do that planning and negotiation work to present as cleanly a packaged up change proposal as can be constructed and thereby increase the likelihood of having it implemented by removing as many of the little steps and hurdles as can be reasonably done.


Were you around back when the current app icon was implemented and witnessed the wailing and distress from a substantial number of people? Any graphic set is going to have the same issues multiplied several times so having that heartache up front and out of the way is going to make it less worrisome for Jon to buy into more of these anxieties about different people's tastes and preferences about visuals.


For me, avoiding the whole issue is the best option but that is a minority view on this thread. For those who have a clear set of preferences then setting them out fully and clearly and debating them amongst those keen to see the idea implemented is the next level of challenge.


Have fun playing with these ideas amongst the 'pro' group and I think you will, collectively, bring your desires closer to fulfilment. 

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Diogo Resende

The only thing needed is an API, nothing more. No bloated code, no worries, just 2 or 3 API calls. Plugins will do the rest.

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Luke Scott

First off, it's not all about you. Second, saying "[it] goes against the ST minimalistic aesthetic by introducing the kind of visual clutter that Jon has set out to avoid in building ST" is an assumption.


We're not asking for a default icon set. We're not asking Jon to provide a default icon set. We're asking for an easy way for themes / plugins to place an icon next to the files and folders. Most of us want this for Git (or other SCM) badges.

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Diogo Resende

This is not just icons in files thing. It's about usability for many people and it should be an option. But it's more than that. You could have state icons for linted files, status of git/svn, remote file indication, ..

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